It's a quality parka and I love it because I get cold super easily. Great company/quality and price isn't terrible. It’s been a bit since I’ve read up on down, but I also think that not all manufactures / suppliers use the same standards or scales for down. [–]corsair5555 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). Regarding the Uniqlo, obviously more expensive coats are going to blow it out of the water, but If someone is going to spend less than 200$ on a coat, its the right choice. Am I going to wax a coat several times a season? All have dual handwarmers, with partial fleece lining. Probably missed the boat on getting replies in this thread, but is there a reason Helly Hansen wasn't mentioned? But haven't been shopping there in a while so I don't know if they still do that. It got down to below freezing a couple times this past winter and I wore it and worked really well. I liked the zippers and the hood but the only thing I wish it had was adjustments cords at the bottom and around the chest area like the Baxter. Large in all of these fit well. YMMV on the styling, it has a bit of a more tailored cut to it, but doesn't have fabric accents or anything. I looked over the spreadsheet and your tl;dr. I’m down to your “top 4 choices” so just need your help in choosing one of these jackets, considering the cold of IL, MN and ND. ), we think this is an important metric for judging the quality of a down jacket. The best deals are usually on Amazon or other 3rd party sites. As I said in my previous post, I prefer even longer than that (thigh length), but ymmv. I did an extensive review of the MM with many pictures. Yes, at 250 they are a much more attractive buy. Updated last year, the jacket is reasonably light at 11 ounces, provides solid warmth with over 4 ounces of 650-fill-power down, and stuffs into its own hand pocket. The only difference appears to be styling. This can also be found deeply on sale. Thats almost 30 degrees colder than rain temps, that you are going to be walking in (and therefore generating heat), plus if you are wearing a sweater for the office or anything, thats just going to be crazy. If you need to wear business casual clothes at work (or want to wear similar weight stuff at school/work) then go warmer, because you are more likely to have to layer a heavier sweater or fleece under the uniqlo. I'll probably use it for 2-3 years and then throw it away. Based on the earlier excellent Parka Guide r/malefashionadvice/comments/7nfd82/ultimate_parka_guide/ by /u/unknoahble I have decided to publish an updated version, especially including a link to a spreadsheet with almost all of the Parka choices available today. Vinson has more pockets, and the reinforced wear patches to be more durable. (One of them attaches by magnet), https://www.int-res.com/articles/cr2004/26/c026p077.pdf, http://c-8oqtgrjgwu46x24itcrjkeux2eejkeciqvtkdwpgx2eeqo.g00.chicagotribune.com/g00/3_c-8yyy.ejkeciqvtkdwpg.eqo_/c-8OQTGRJGWU46x24jvvrx3ax2fx2fitcrjkeu.ejkeciqvtkdwpg.eqox2fyja-hwt-nkpgf-jqqfu-ctg-uq-yctox2fckx2fck4jvon-qwvrwvx2fjqqfu-hwt.rpix3fk32e.octmx3dkocig_$/$/$/$/$, http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-why-fur-lined-hoods-are-so-warm-htmlstory.html. I asked the store attendants and they gave me a LL Bean wool sweater just to see how it felt in case I decided to wear a sweater on top of my shirt also. Also, not sure if this helps anyone but after reading your review on LL bean MM parka, I wanted to try one at the store…and was able to try size M. They didn't have one so I talked to their customer support agent online and was told, MM Parka size M (in Black) are all sold out and won't be in stock till next FALL. I was hoping I could find a jacket that would let me just wear a t-shirt under it and still be warm enough. Thinking of getting one for my wife. Counterfeit CG may include chicken feathers, and cat/dog fur. The Eddie Bauer Superior down is a close 3rd. Shop men's down jackets on sale at Eddie Bauer, a legend in American sportswear. I mostly stay in Chicago and often visit friends and family in MN and ND. [–]throwawayBeachball1 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children), yah, don't pay european taxes because the website is german, [–]jiunit 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (10 children), What do you think of Patagonia's new city storm parka? It is less than last year! Thank you so, so much for this. You can find them on sale unlike CG, and are another Canadian made brand. Got it for $220 shipped/taxes and all so hope I'm not disappointed! I prefer the look of the Mountain Equipment jacket, which is also the cheapest of the three. [–]mista_fresh 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). The Singi Down Jacket is a durable piece that offers solid warmth with its 600-fill down, tons of storage, and clean lines representative of the company’s Scandinavian heritage. [–]runbmb 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (11 children). Yup. So far, my only criteria is that they can be worn around 0F weather and be lightweight enough to carry around. Making clothing less intimidating and helping you develop your own style. But it is 2x-3x the price. The size and the way this one fits is perfect. Fill power: 800 Fill weight: 85g / 3oz The Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody is a practical all-rounder. The fill number 850 vs. 675 has nothing to do with its ability to insulate. un-recessed ribbed cuffs, WAIST LENGTH. While these can be very warm, they are generally not as fashionable and convenient. Also 8 years ago they were significantly cheaper...I think I paid somewhere under $500. The key to that jacket working was to not have much under garments on. There are many many more who buy it for the fashion. The short answer is that in real extreme temperatures like -40, expecting the parka alone to handle it isn't the right answer. There are stacking sales where you can get almost 50% off if you get a coupon, during a sale, and sign up for the ll bean credit card. The higher the fill power the more air an ounce of the down can trap, and thus the more insulating ability an ounce of the down will have. [–]geogle 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child). I got in on that $30 screwup sale but they canceled my order :/. The JR&B version is MUCH more expensive (800+). But thats a difference that can be made up by wearing sweaters or fleeces, unless you are going to be going deep into negative territory (in which case even the high end parkas need the sweaters and fleeces). 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